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PostSubject: What Would You Do?   20/11/17, 11:31 am

My neice Beverley has a couple of cats.

I love visiting her and wish I could visit more often, but, she has a couple of cats which are either upstairs or outside playing when we visit because Louies doesn't get on with other animals.

The trouble is not the cats themselves but that every time I visit Louie comes home alive with cat fleas, so this is why I don't go very often.

The stuff that I put on his neck does eventually kill the fleas and also stops them breeding but it can take 2 or 3 days for all the fleas to die. In the meantime Louie is so bloody uncomfortable and scratching like crazy.

The first time I visited after Beverley had the cats I told her how Louie had picked up fleas. First she denied that there was anyway he could have got them in her house as she has never seen fleas on her cats. Then I explained that he never goes anywhere else to pick up fleas because he can't get on with other animals and I have to keep him away from them, plus the fact that he had never had fleas until the day I visited her.

She then said that she de fleas her cats regularly. Now I don't believe that one bit. But I gave the benefit of the doubt and said no more.

Since then I have been over to her twice more, with many weeks gap between the visits. Bugger me if Louie didn't come home again alive with fleas both times.

I don't know what to do about this. I can't not visit Beverley occasionally. I can't call her a liar when she says she de-fleas her cats, but also I can't keep letting Louie suffer like this every time we go.

How would you handle it tactfully?
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   20/11/17, 07:46 pm

Hi Sandy,
How far is Beverley from your home? Do you stay overnight? If it's not that far away and you don't stay overnight, don't take Louie. Is Louie okay being by himself in your apt?  If I remember right Louie is a dog. If you are staying overnight and need to take Louie let her know how much you enjoy visiting her and you would visit more often, but you can't because of the flea issue. If she doesn't want to acknowledge there is a flea problem in her home, I don't think there is much you can do. I'm guessing at all possibilities?
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   20/11/17, 08:42 pm

I would be up front about it and mention for her to get her cat a flea collar.

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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   20/11/17, 09:21 pm

I have herbal flea collars and never had a problem with them. I like that fact they don't have chemicals. I also put peppermint essential oils on their fur and that is double the protection.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   20/11/17, 11:42 pm

They are usually just afternoon visits Daz. But I wouldn't leave Louie on his own for that long. He loves visiting as well.

I think I am, as you say, just going to have to be more firm with her and enforce the fact that her cat's do have fleas even if, as she says, she never sees them.

It is harder to keep cats free from fleas because in their roaming they not only pick them up from other cats but also from walking through tall grasses.

I always remember to do Louie's flea and tick treatment because I do it on the 1st of every month.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   21/11/17, 12:07 am

We leave our 2 dogs 5 hours at a time. They do really well, but then again they are together and keep each company.

My sister had 2 different cats and they let them outside and fleas were always a problem, even with being treated with flea collars, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   21/11/17, 08:15 am

Yeah, I never found those flea collars to work as they say they should. I always had cats when younger and boy was it hard to keep them free of fleas. But then in those days there was no such thing as this spot on medication that there is now.

What I used to do in those days was get a wet sponge and soak the cat's fur with it, which stopped any fleas being able to run, then lay the cat across my lap and pick out the fleas one by one and drop them in a bowl of boiling water. The flea powder in those days was also bloody useless. That used to just make the fleas sleepy so they didn't run and then you had to take the cats outside and comb the fleas out.

Yeah, it was the same when I had Bayley. When I went out for long periods of time it was mostly with my Sarah, and therefore Bayley always had Sarah's Alfie (a westie) for company so I didn't mind leaving him that long. But then they also had a larger house to play in, whereas Louie only has this tiny little flat. But even then I would time myself and only leave them for a max of 3 hours.

I have to admit, as Martha says in the other thread, that I have babied Louie a little bit more than I did my other dogs.

Mind you, I don't think Louie minds being left alone as when I come back he is always still fast asleep, usually in my bed. My girls say I am stupid to worry about him so much when I have to leave him alone, but I feel so bloody guilty, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   21/11/17, 08:36 am

I never left my dogs longer than four hours even when I had four of them keeping each other company. I think it depends what they're used to from the start. It was probably more my problem than theirs though. I always had visions of them crossing their legs because they needed to pee if I left them any longer. lol

If Beverley insists she treats the cats and doesn't see fleas on them then I'd tell her she needs to treat the house as well as the cats. Sounds like it needs flea bombing. I had to do that when I moved into this house because there were cat fleas everywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 05:36 pm

I give my cat Revolutions to keep fleas from even thinking about jumping up on her. There is Revolutions for dogs too. It's the best treatment I've ever used. Amazing stuff. You put drops btwn the shoulder blades once a month.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 05:41 pm

Put the flea stuff on your pup ahead of time before going there then that way they'll avoid him altogether or get a pamphlet that suggests what she can use in her home to keep the fleas out of her home whether her cats bring them in or not.

Fleas don't travel from one animal to the next those buggers can jump and even suck off our own blood so even you could be bringing them from somewhere and not know it or not.

Fleas are a real bugger I have had my fare share of them in my day enough to know I really don't like them, not when they can come really close to killing one of my cats.

To avoid any disagreements with your niece I would try just putting on the treatment before going there. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 08:14 pm

We have what's called advantage here Elaine which works the same as your revolutions. We can only get it from a vet and not a pet shops which means it costs a bloody fortune but well worth it. It's similar to us getting some meds from a Doctor and not over the counter.

In future as Marie says, I will time visiting Beverley with Louie having just had his monthly dose of it. That way it he should be completely protected and if he does pick up a flea it will die within 24 hours.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 08:29 pm

My family and friends don't really want us bringing our dogs with us, so we don't. I know there are people that don't mind that you do.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 09:10 pm

I'm very lucky like that. In fact if I turned up without Louie they would be disappointed. He is very much loved by all, which makes my life so easy.

A while ago I dropped into my Sister's when Aimee and I were on our way home from a shopping complex. The first thing my Sister Barbara said was "Where's Louie" I explained we were just dropping in on the way home and she said, "Why couldn't you go home and get him first before coming here".

When Charlie (Handyman) comes in for a cup of tea, he spends the whole time I am making the tea on the floor playing with the dog, who it normally going barmy as he just loves visitors.

When I 'm invited in for cups of tea with my neighbours, they also always say, bring Louie.

I suppose it depends on how big a dog is or if it's more than one as to whether people mind people bringing a dog/s with them.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 09:13 pm

Some dogs are territorial and won't allow other dogs to come to their home. Others don't mind. You're fortunate that way Sandy.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 09:30 pm

Ahhh, but there is no where I visit that have dogs of their own. Cat's yes, but not dogs. I could never take Louie where another dog was. He just doesn't get on with them.

Now that I am feeling a lot better and fitter, after Christmas I am going to arrange for one to one lessons for Louie with a dog trainer. Then after he has a couple I will arrange for him to train around other dogs. He first needs to learn the basics of actually doing as I say instantly and not when he feels like it.

There is no such thing as a naughty dog, there is only a bad owner, and I'm afraid when it comes to discipline there has been none with Louie. I've always said that Louie is never naughty, and he isn't, because he is never really told what to do. But to learn to play nicely with other dogs, he first has to learn to take instant notice of me if I tell him to do something, or not do something.

My problem wont be me learning to train him and him learning to be trained but it will be getting the family to help me do it by following my lead and not spoil him as much as we all have been doing.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   26/11/17, 09:36 pm

@Zandranna wrote:



There is no such thing as a naughty dog, there is only a bad owner, and I'm afraid when it comes to discipline there has been none with Louie.


I believe that, too. It's the owners that are responsible for the way dogs are. I feel sorry for the Pit Bull breed because of the way owners breed and treat them. I watched the "National Dog Show" on Thanksgiving (NBC) and they had the most beautiful Pit Bull that won the terrier group. He had the most beautiful markings and coat and you could tell his personality was just wonderful. He was happy and bouncy.

I agree about training. Everyone has to be involved and follow your lead.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   27/11/17, 10:13 am

Pit Bulls are not allowed to be bred here anymore, either pure bred or mixed breed.  They come under the dangerous dog act and are totally banned here in the UK.

At one point the yobs all thought it manly to have a Pit Bull walking beside them and there were a great many attacks, especially on children, more often than not resulting in death.  Which is why we had to change our laws for dangerous dogs.  All Pit Bulls still alive at that point had to wear a muzzle when outside and be neutered.  Now of course if any dog born after that has any Pit Bull in them they are taken away and a high chance they will be euthanised.

By law now, all dogs must be chipped and must wear a collar with a tag.

Those that would once have owned Pit Bulls now tend to go for the Staffordshire Terrier because they look so very similar to the Pit Bull.  Staffs are as soft as shite, although of course they can be trained to be vicious like all dogs.

Louie is of course chipped, but I"m afraid I never put a collar on him with a tag.  I should do really or chances are one day a copper or dog warden will notice and stop me.  I've just never gotten around to making a tag for him.  Next time I go to Pets at Home I will do that though I think. You can make them yourself there in a machine for pennies.

There is also one other very old law here which not many people realise is a law because it's never enforced unless there is a problem, and that's that it's illegal to walk a dog along a pavement without being on a leash.  Dogs are only allowed, legally, to be off the leash away from any form of traffic.  And of course, not picking up poo is a hefty fine.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   27/11/17, 11:28 am

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Dazzal said: He was happy and bouncy.
Exactly the type I avoid! LOL I like dogs that are calm, quiet, and intuitive. no need to speak to them above a whisper Smile
@zandranna Advantage is not as good as Revolution... close but, no. not as effective.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   27/11/17, 11:54 am


I'd never heard of revolution before you mentioned it, so perhaps we don't have it over here.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   27/11/17, 04:47 pm


@Elaine wrote:
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Dazzal said: He was happy and bouncy.
Exactly the type I avoid! LOL I like dogs that are calm, quiet,

Not to be misunderstood Elaine, but he had a calm demeanor. It includes all; calm, happy and a bit bouncy. Just a wonderful dog. I should have stated "American Staffordshire Terrier" instead of "Pit Bull Terrier."  (they are nearly the same)
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   27/11/17, 10:22 pm


I think I would leave the dog at home, so as not to cause
an issue with a relative I was visiting.
When I lived in Florida, my cat was an indoor cat.
But I fed strays all the time. And took in one stray
that got along well with my indoor cat.
She still wanted to go outside sometimes, though.
No matter what I did to fight fleas it was difficult
to keep them off the animal if they went outside.

I ended up taking her to the groomer once a week
to get a bath that got rid of fleas.
I even sprinkled borax in the grass in the yard.

But the fleas thrived in that hot weather down there.
The groomer said I shouldn't let her outdoors anymore.
But she would cry-meow to go out and play. I would give in.

I don't have a pet anymore. And they probably have much
better and safer products than they did years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: What Would You Do?   02/12/17, 12:00 am

It's ridiculously hard to keep fleas off of cats if they aren't totally indoor cats, because when they are out roaming, they are also roaming around with other cats that may not been flea and tick treated.

With dogs it's so much easier to control because we can control what other dogs they mix with.

I found out a couple of days ago, from her Brother, that Beverley is using the cheap over the counter flea treatment on her cats which is probably why it's not working very well.
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